I am very proud to announce that you have been busy running trying to clean off all your websites, and your false claims to being federally recognized. Two things you have no control over, the private messages Naomi sent with these claims, and the web cashed files where you have made the claims, along with your claims of taking two children using ICWA.
You are scum, the lowest of the lows. You are worse than the Capobianco's who stole a child, you tried to steal a tribe identity, and by doing that, you stole not one, but TWO children by making false claims.
I know you are reading this page, so I am telling you, and the world of what you have done! No child can be raised in a healthy house that is part of scams, lies, and god knows what else you are doing, you people are sick, sick, SICK, and karma is coming for you.
PS The more you remove from the web, the faster my blog comes to the top in engine searches, I can only encourage you to remove more, more, MORE!
The Lion and Lamb Studio: And so it begins----!
ReplyDeletethelionandlambstudio.blogspot.com/2008/05/and-so-it-begins.html
May 5, 2008 - My name is Leann Banta, artist and wife of Charles Daniel Two Hats ... of the Shawnee, one of the two federally recognized tribes in Indiana.
The Lion and Lamb Studio: And so it begins----!
ReplyDeletethelionandlambstudio.blogspot.com/…/05/and-so-it...
He is the chief of our tribe, the Platform Reservation Remnant Band of the Shawnee, one of the two federally recognized tribes in Indiana.
http://forums.powwows.com/f114/bloodline-lost-63521/
ReplyDeleteOld 04-26-2012, 10:21 AM #7
LeannB
LeannB
LeannB's Avatar
Items
DollDollCat
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
LeannB has a reputation beyond repute
LeannB
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Central Indiana
Posts: 247
Credits: 2,637.72
Savings: 0.00
Maria, what family history do you have? What tribe did they tell you? DNA won't tell you THAT. You need some history.
Our folks originally came from Ohio. We are Platform Reservation Remnant Band of the Shawnee. Most of us are in Indiana, now. We are federally recognized, as a Treaty Tribe; a couple of years ago, Hubby was invited to a conference in Washington DC as a representitive of area treaty tribes at a conference. So YEAS, the feds know we are here. We've been offered a BIA number, but do not want the BIA controls. So we told them no.
But that does NOT make us any less Indian.
There have been several tribes in Ohio. There was a group of Shawnee in Ohio that had state recognition. But they have been under alot of internal bickering. Won't go into it here.
If you are looking for native roots to get in on the gravy train, you won't find it in our tribe. We are accepting NO Federal money, and WILL NOT (while our chief and elders draw breath) ever have a Casino, etc. Not putting down any tribe that does...but it's OUR choice.
Old 04-28-2012, 08:48 PM #19
ReplyDeleteLeannB
LeannB
LeannB's Avatar
Items
DollDollCat
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
LeannB has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Central Indiana
Posts: 247
Credits: 2,637.72
Savings: 0.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
I was not aware there is another catagory of Federally Recognized Tribes what is a Treaty Tribe???
Hi, Josiah! You aren't the only one that doesn't know about that. But there are tribes that are federally recognized but have opted NOT to take the BIA number or controls. We chose not to take any gov't money. This doesn't make us any less Indian; and the feds called Hubby in to represent Treaty Tribes at the CERT conference in Washington DC a couple of summers ago. There was at least one tribe at that conference who had recently recieved a BIA number, and discovered to their chagrin that the feds had their finger in a tribal disagreement. The tribe was NOT happy about that, at all.
Quote:
I was under the impression that the Shawnee live in Oklahoma, my wife works for the Absentee Shawnee Tribe here in Central Oklahoma and the only other one I know of is in Eastern Oklahoma... Both are Federally Recognized and have a Government to Government Relationship going back hundreds of years, They were removed like many tribes from the east and settled here in Oklahoma...
NOPE. Not all the Shawnee live on Oklahoma. Many of them looked at what the gov't was doing and chose to melt back into the woods and do their best to pass as "white." It happened lots more than what the gov't wanted to admit, and they sure didn't want to waste to time to go back after them. Not going to Oklahoma didn't make them any less Indian. They just didn't go on a federal list.
We are not after any federal funds. We are no in "competition" with any other tribe. It would be nice for other tribes to accept us as Indians, but if they don't, that's OK, too. We don't need anyone to tell us who we are or aren't.
We do recognize that the oklahoma tribes have alot to offer in the way of cultural things we have lost along the way, when our ancestors chose to shed their Shawnee ways, in order to survive. We appreciate your efforts. Maybe sometime we can have a nice long friendly chat. That would be fun and educational. We don't get out to visit too much 'cause we are juggling family and goats and cows and chickens and gardens, trying really hard to keep the pantry full so we can help other members of the tribe who are struggling now. But we do need to get out more.
I think by now, Leann Banta knows she is a liar, and everyone else knows it too, because two people questioned her, one of those persons I know, the other stated his wife works for the Absentee Shawnee, and Leann thought she could bullshit her way through it. The fact is, the one man only mentioned two federally recognized Shawnee tribes, but there are three, all in Oklahoma, and I think we all know that Leann and husband Charlie, Dan, Two Hats or whatever name he chooses to use this week, are liars and in need of professional help. They must not realize it only takes one simple phone call to the government to verify their claims, but like so many other fakes who are culture vultures, making it up as they go along, do not realize what total asses they are making of themselves.
DeleteWhat you point out is the crux of how they got away with it for so long. As Leann argues with the man whose wife works for the Shawnee the US Army somehow was bullshitted into accepting Chief Phony Hats as Indian. You saw that speech he gave at Crane Naval. He worked his way into a job at Camp Atterbury claiming to be the posts only Indian. Screaming discrimination when anyone called him on it while REAL Indians are unemployed. Did their combat time in Iraq, Afghanistan and could certainly be eligible or more as Chief. I was told that by the BIA but they said they had no investigatory powers. The company he is contracted with supposedly gets a tax break for hiring an Indian. According to the BIA the federal laws are pretty clearly written..not BIA recognized, not eligible for set aside Indian jobs. So maybe they didn't want a "corn" check but they though nothing of taking a job away from a real Indian.
DeleteYou seem to have started the ball rolling. They are going as dark as they can...way too late. You did a good thing Sam and friends. The manure is out of the can now!
04-29-2012, 09:51 AM #21
ReplyDeleteLeannB
LeannB
LeannB's Avatar
Items
DollDollCat
User InfoThanks / Tagging InfoGifts / Achievements / AwardsvBActivity Stats
LeannB has a reputation beyond repute
LeannB has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Central Indiana
Posts: 247
Credits: 2,637.72
Savings: 0.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
So am I to understand that individuals melted into the woods whilst their families were moved to Oklahoma and that now the decendants of these individuals have reformed back into a tribe/group but dont want Federal Money nor Recognition?
We already HAVE Federal recognition. Just not a BIA number. NOPE, we don't want Fed money. We have seen what Gov't gifts have done for folks. We don't want that for our family.
Quote:
That they no longer have language or culture of the original tribe? So what conection do they have with the original tribe? I mean to say a tribe is made up of Families that are related to one another even in the distant past, where is this past relationship?? If there is no relationship then how can you claim Kinship???
We are trying to get the language, etc. back. And we're doing that. If nothing else, there is a shared gene pool, and that is important to know about, esp. for medical issues that NA have that non-NA have.
Gotta go, we have things to do this morning. If you don't understand what we are trying to do, that's OK. I'm not here to start a fight. Believe me or not, your choice. Like I said, we're not here to split off any gov't largesse from your folks.
Enjoy your spring day. It's too pretty to be in a squabble. I'll check back w/ this thread this afternoon.
ETA.......
Can someone tell me why other Indians feel threatened by us? I guess I'm a bit thick skulled here. We don't want anything of theirs...their land, their benifits, their insurance, nothing. We have bought our own little patch of land, paid it off. Any more land we get, we will do the same. What the gov't has, the gov't will take away.
Old 04-29-2012, 04:37 PM #27
ReplyDeleteLeannB
LeannB's Avatar
Items
LeannB has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Central Indiana
Posts: 247
Credits: 2,637.72
Savings: 0.00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josiah View Post
I can't speak for everyone as for feeling threatened for I don't, no its more of a curiosity thing for I am familiar with this story just change the tribe from Shawnee to Cherokee we have 250 different remenants of groups claiming to be Cherokee, Many have a similiar story that you posted earlier in this thread: They melted into society and assimilated till years and years later they reformed back into a tribal group, many have gone through hundreds of name changes and have split off from the original group that formed in the 70's 1970's that is.
Josiah, suppose you had just heard the story of Noah's flood in your Sunday School, and decided that it wasn't true. COULDN'T be true. Then you hear about all the other cultures in the world, with their flood stories.....
Kinda makes you wonder if the story of Noah might have a ring of truth to it, HUH?
Josiah, you are hearing multiples of folks saying the same thing. They did NOT get all the NDNs out of the countryside. History is written by the victors. It was important to the Victors that the citizens believe that all those "nasty" Indians were GONE. So that is what they told folks. THAT is what is in the history books. Do you REALLY want to believe that EVERYTHING in the history books and Federal records is right, 100% of the time???
Quote:
I am just trying to understand how if there is no connection that you can claim to be this tribe. For my definition of a tribe/nation is one that hold common ancestry with the past in language and culture if you have neither and have no kinship with the "original" tribe then how can this be a tribe???
OK. My MIL was raised by her Grandparents in the Southernmost part of Ohio, Lawrence County, Rome Township. She grew up with a buncha other kids, riding horses thru the hilly countryside overlooking the Ohio River, in a piece of land called "Platform Reservation" and exploring caves ('rock houses") that Indians had used as hiding spots. Her Grandmother told her she was Shawnee, even in a time when being an Indian was considered being "dirty" and "lazy." Grandma and Granpa were neither. MIL grew up playing games that (when she was taken back to the white world at age 12) none of her white friends knew. MIL later found out that these were Shawnee games. Her Mom refused to be known as "Indian," until right before she died. But you can deny your genetics all you want....but they are still part of your makeup. There have been MANY medical conditions in the family that were MUCH better understood and overcome, when that genetic code was taken into account.
Suppose you had been taken away from YOUR parents ar a very early age, and raised as a Mexican, or in Afghanistan, or anywhere else in the world, away from the Shawnee land and culture. You know NONE of the language. None of the culture.
So, THAT makes you less than an Indian? That means you are NO LONGER Indian? You parents will ignore you when they find out, reject you as no longer family, because you no longer speak the language, worship the Creator like they do?
THIS is what the US gov't tried to do with the mission schools. take the young ones, grow them up in an alien culture and religion, split them up from their families and deliver them ten years or more later as practically strangers to their family. They were ripping them from their roots.
If we do not have the "proper" upbringing, and politely come to you (who are the "real" Indians, according to gov't paperwork) and ask you to teach us....
And YOU refuse....
Then who is at fault?
AND MY FAVORITE PART FROM THE ABOVE POST THAT I HAD TO POST HERE BECAUSE OF LENGTH:
ReplyDeleteQuote:
One other point the BIA is a Bureau of the Department of Interior which is a part of the Federal Government they are the only part that grants FEDERAL Recognition that means they recognize the Tribe/Nation as a sovereign nation so... How can you be Federal Recognized and the BIA not Recognize you?? That makes no sense...
HMMM...I think you are wrong, there. The Army and the IRS and several other govenrmental agencies list my Hubby as Native American. He's got the paperwork to show THAT. He has been employed by several branches of the US gov't and they ALL recognize him as being Native American. And that is without the BIA being involved.
Share
__________________
SO CHARLIE WORKS AT CAMP ATTERBURY BRAGGING ABOUT BEING THEIR ONLY INDIAN.....NICE.
Here is a copy of the email to me admitting the cattle and feed were mine but I had to sign a paper agreeing to NEVER talk about them. If I had I wouldn't have been able to contact you about Chief Phony Hats misusing the ICWA..
ReplyDeleteI left the emails and names intact. If they don't like it they can sue me. The truth is the absolute defense for libel.
And, even more is disappearing from the net. Now their website comes up "coming soon". Are they really that stupid as to think it is really gone?
Oh, and Jonathans employer Wellpoint has already been notified that if my computer is hacked my attorney will be looking them as well. He brags he can get into anyones Medicare file and other things.
From: "Kirk, Jonathan A."
To: Robin Mitchell
Cc: Leann ; "charlietwohats@earthlink.net"
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:30 PM
Subject: Dissolution of Assets
Robin,
The Kirk’s final offer is to turnover both remaining heifers and $300 in money order for the hay that is not on property.
The Banta’s final offer is turning over Abraham, Darla, Dave, Suzie, and ½ of the remaining large bales on the Banta property.
The lone condition of these terms is to cease and desist discussing our persons in any form of electronic, printed, oral, and or any other media for any purpose.
The removal of all assets is your obligation and shall be completed by Sunday, November the 18th 2012.
If this is acceptable to you our legal counsel will draw up a binding contract to outline the above.
A response is required Monday, November the 12th 2012 at 5:00 p.m. A non-response is the equivalent of your refusal of the offer.
If you so decline to accept this agreement we will see you in court.
John,
The 2 long arms are to be delivered to you with a receipt required upon delivery within the next week.
Cordially,
Jonathan A. Kirk
Rhonda Kirk
Charles Banta
Leann Banta
I found this today while doing my Chief Phony Hats and Wife research. I wonder if the Banta family owns any mirrors? I put the link here but I am sure as Sam says...they will delete it soon thinking it makes it all better.
ReplyDeleteYet, I am amazed. Sam has called them as he sees them. Low lifes. I have called them what they are cattle thieves. Along with Jonathan and Rhonda Kirk. We know they are reading along here. No response? No "we are federally recognized but don't want no corn check" crap? How does misusing the ICWA for personal gain or taking a job at Camp Atterbury claiming minority status as an Indian when a REAL Indian could have qualified and deserved that status? That job. How is that any different then taking a corn check?
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2217179
View First Unread View First Unread
Thread Tools Display Modes
#1
Unread 10-15-2013, 07:40 AM
Limner's Avatar
Limner Limner is offline
Congressman
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Backwoods
Posts: 4,356
Wink Picture and Bible verse for the day.....
...and WOW. Doesn't it fit?
(NEXT TO A PICTURE OF OBAMA)
Proverbs 6:16-19
King James Version (KJV)
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/state-tribal-institute/list-of-federal-and-state-recognized-tribes.aspx Above is a link to all Federally Recognized Tribes listed by State. (This was updated June 2013). Indiana had ZERO FR Tribes. I have worked within our Tribes Governmental program for almost 20 years and have never heard of a "Treaty" Tribe. If the state allowed this family to adopt, based on ICWA, they violated the law because it only covers Members of a FR Tribe. I was also concerned when I read that this family was living in an RV at the time they were given the child (while permanent home was being built). How did they even pass the home study required to adopt? So many things about this adoption has red flags, INO.
ReplyDeleteHeather
Along with living in an RV....which is parked next to their "house" which used to be her "studio". It was half finished last time I was in it.
DeleteBut in addition here she admits she hasn't brought the adopted boy to the doctors in years. The summer I was around the family she was feeding Chief Phony Hats fish meds all summer for a toothache. In case this thread gets deleted with the rest I made copies. Doesn't that tribe have his brother Eric as medicine man?
http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=189600
#7
Old 09-23-2013, 12:42 PM
Limner's Avatar
Limner Limner is offline
Congressman
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Backwoods
Posts: 4,359
Default
We found the cheapest plan for us, we think....$250 a month for the Dude and me (Hubby healthcare is thru the VA), with a $5,000 deductible. I haven't been to the Dr in YEARS. The Dude hasn't been in several years either, no need to. So unless something hugely catastrophic happens, we will be dishing out $3,000 (which we can ill afford.....) a year for something we can't use.
__________________
At 8:35 this morning someone called my husband's cellphone spoofing his own number and threatened him. Told him "we had better stop fucking with them".
ReplyDeleteI am not pointing any fingers as I don't have any proof but if that is the best you can do then you don't know us.
Charlie Daniel Two Hats Banta stole several thousand dollars in fencing, feed and cattle from me. Amongst other things the man is an outright THIEF. Along with his other "Christian" buddy Jonathan Kirk of Martinsville Indiana who works at Wellpoint in a sensitive position.
I posted my email address here Danny Boy, Phony Hats, Charlie...whatever alias you want to go under this week. And, you have the other one Jonathan sent the email to telling me I can have my cows and PART of my hay back IF I agreed to sign an airtight agreement drawn up by his lawyer so that I could never talk about you ever again. You know what? I am screaming it from the hilltops that:
Charles Daniel Two Hats Banta
Leann Banta
Rhonda Kirk
Jonathan Kirk
ARE ALL LOW LIFE THIEVES. SCUM of the earth and phony Christians as well as phony Indians (Bantas).
Don't like it? Sue me. Go ahead. File. I have receipts, emails, etc all saved in multiple places on multile media. Explain how I bought hundreds of dollars in fencing while still in Alaska that you picked up and signed for and installed on your property. A gift to the tribe? That ain't gonna fly. I have the emails and the signed paper where you state you are babysitting MY animals.
Then Leann the scumtress herself goes on the tree of liberty and proudly claims where it is the best fencing for goats. Yeah, especially if you can scam someone else into paying for it.
Tell everyone on TTOL and at Camp Atterbury that the cattle belong "to the tribe"...what one poster warned me of and several other military members. None are buying your crap especially when I showed them YOUR letter to me admitting they were mine or my receipts. You jig is up.
Don't bother calling me or my husband to threaten us. Let me know when you want to meet at my attorney in Indy with a check. That is before the local DA decides to put a feather in HIS cap and charge the four of you with larceny, theft, conspiracy, a few more.
Oh, and Leann was so proud of her Lamb and Lion hand made sign proclaiming her a Limner out in front of your Res...all 2.5 acres of it. Why is it now an empty frame?
What is that about pride goes before....especially fake pride. Pride in thievery of both someone elses cattle, someone else identity and worse of all someone elses child.
I think someone needs to find the birth mother of those three kids and hear HER side of the story. That old lady living in the RV hearing voices in her crazy head coveted her baby. Just like that crazy old lady looked out her window everyday and coveted my cattle.
Now you have the attention of the real Indians. I am a white girl from NY. The Indian in me is from my mothers grandmother who died long before I was born. I know much more about her morals and her Quaker religion then I do her Indian ways. I know what you are doing is a sin in any society that is moral. Only I didn't know how to bring attention to you until Sam put this blog up. Sam deserves a big pat on the back for having the guts and the morals you lack.
ReplyDeleteYou complain because they only pay you $12.00 an hour at Camp Atterbury in the SAR section of Indiana Homeland Security as the facilities manager. I think that mean janitor dude. Not Marshall or anything else. I called DHS, INS, US Marshall's, BIA, and a host of others all asking if you have a badge from them. The one you wear on your hip or are you hiding it too? You have a phony badge from a phony tribe. Your wife admitted and I posted here how the US Army and the IRS federally recognize you. Yeah, because YOU told them that you are Indian and someone fell down on the job and didn't call the BIA. Then you parlayed that Army recognition into a claim of federal recognition. Is that why you self admittedly and posted by your wife on her blog that you gave up a job earning $35 a hour to take a job at Camp Atterbury for $12? Just to get your nose under the tent so to speak?
And, your UN blue signs declaring it an Indiana reservation? Nice. Does that mean the tribe owns that property or is it tilted to Charles Banta in any of his alias? Lot's of question that need to be answered under oath and investigated by the proper authorities.
Hell has a special place for all of you Bantas and Kirks. What you are doing dishonors the real Shawnee people.
Several law enforcement and real Shawnee/BIA have called me about this in the last month. They are just starting to look into and unravel this "cult" as one BIA official called them. Others would like to but don't have investigation powers...but I would bet their friends do.
ReplyDeleteThree things really bother them. Tops is misusing the ICWA laws. Then seems to be these Marshall badges you passed out. Third is the embarrassment you have caused real Natives Americans. Or, maybe taking a job out at Camp Atterbury under a set aside that a real Indian kid back from the Sand Box could use.
Chief Phony Hats might want to keep checking back here.
And, Naomi Banta and Jonathan Kirk...you know you CAN look at my LinkIn account anonymously right? Should I send you an invite?
Sam...Naomi still just can't help herself. She doesn't understand that there really is no way to make social media like FB pages gone except not to type it and post it in the first place:
ReplyDeleteBring Hailey Home
January 1
People need to wake up and do some research and use common sense... What if this was your son/daughter or grandchild? AND this isn't the 1st case of this happening BUT hopefully they can make it harder to get away with this in the future... LAWS NEED TO BE CHANGED to protect the child, NOT the adoption industry!
Check out the case of Preston King or Christopher Carlton or John Wyatt or Jon R Butl...See More
3Like · · Share
32 people like this.
Theresa Cloud Dancer Buchanan Likes my comment, me 2! Just hope I didn't miss anyone in my list of names fighting... Funny though, still no response on MSN...
January 1 at 12:32am · Like · 4
Bring Hailey Home A ROCK STAR comment!! Thank you!!
January 1 at 12:33am · Like · 3
Theresa Cloud Dancer Buchanan You are so very welcome - hopefully it will open some eyes to all the cases out there...
January 1 at 12:34am · Like · 4
Nad Brew AMEN! WE TOGETHER FIGHT TO MAKE THIS MOVEMENT! Cases coming out of wood work! more to come including Brandon Gumarang case here in CALIF too..
January 1 at 1:18am · Like · 4
Theresa Cloud Dancer Buchanan Nad, I did not know of his case otherwise I would've included his name...
January 1 at 3:20am · Like · 1
(Robin Mitchell) Naomi G. S. Banta I'm supporting the gentleman in Utah suing the agency and everyone involved. A solid economic argument for these people to change their ways.
January 1 at 4:23am · 4 .....Ironic that Naomi supports that man yet is involved with this shady adoption: http://stolenchildrenicwa.blogspot.com/.../standing-our...
Stolen Children, ICWA,: Standing Our Ground, or Falling Down?
stolenchildrenicwa.blogspot.com
I am glad to see that Naomi just admitted to a felony. There is at least one DA ...See More
4 minutes ago · Like · Remove Preview
https://www.facebook.com/BringHaileyHome?hc_location=timeline&filter=1
DeleteForgot to give the URL
This comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDelete